Curse

Dronte · Aug 02, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

For PvE, i usually use -5(20) because it doesnt require shield swapping, good for any conditions (even tho its crap actually).
For PvP, I obviously use +10 al shields but thats another thing.

I Phoenix I · Aug 02, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Warriors usually have Strength shields? Or Tactics?

I Is Special · Aug 02, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Everyone in the game is supposed to have all the +10a vs X, -2ench, -2stance, -5/20, -2ench/-2stance, -2ench/-3hex, and -2stance/-3 hex shields on EACH toon. Each physical class needs a Firey, icey, ebon, shocking, vamp, zealous, and sundering weapon. Physical classes should also have a variation of 15^50, 20v50, and 20^hexed with each of the aforementioned mods. In addition, casters are to have 3 other caster sets in their inventory at all time. If any of your characters share sets you are a noob. These are both to be done in PvE as well as PvP.

I'm Uber Pro so i have 13 shield sets on all 10 of my characters, i have 14 different weapons for all my physical classes, and perfect caster weapon sets for each of my casters. No weapons are shared between them--they all have their own sets which are carried into each area.

To anyone who doesn't have the same items...Why are you gimping yourself? Sheesh.

Edit: i forgot the condtion lessening shield inscrips. add a couple more shields to each of the classes

Malice Black · Aug 02, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by I Is Special

Everyone in the game is supposed to have all the +10a vs X, -2ench, -2stance, -5/20, -2ench/-2stance, -2ench/-3hex, and -2stance/-3 hex shields on EACH toon. Each physical class needs a Firey, icey, ebon, shocking, vamp, zealous, and sundering weapon. Physical classes should also have a variation of 15^50, 20v50, and 20^hexed with each of the aforementioned mods. In addition, casters are to have 3 other caster sets in their inventory at all time. If any of your characters share sets you are a noob. These are both to be done in PvE as well as PvP.

I'm Uber Pro so i have 13 shield sets on all 10 of my characters, i have 14 different weapons for all my physical classes, and perfect caster weapon sets for each of my casters. No weapons are shared between them--they all have their own sets which are carried into each area.

To anyone who doesn't have the same items...Why are you gimping yourself? Sheesh.

Edit: i forgot the condtion lessening shield inscrips. add a couple more shields to each of the classes

Yes. If you don't have all of the above then you're not being as effective as you could be, therefore you're bad.

Tyla · Aug 02, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

No there aren't.
Closest thing would be "Survival of the Fittest" +1...5 Armor vs Physical Damage but is for off-hands only.

And in PvE someone can't be arsed having 7 slots of different shields so -5/20 is the easiest.

In PvP you don't need your inventory empty so it's best to take a shield for every elemental/physical damage.

You shouldn't need to be carrying around seven different shield sets, just take sets determined by your pre-determined enemies. As for physical armour changes, I ment the Slashing, Blunt etc...

Malice Black · Aug 02, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Guru hasn't got anymore intelligent since my enforced vacation I see. Still good for the odd chuckle though

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 02, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

i have no problem with people liking the -5/20, even though it sucks.

why?

because i have no personal use for it, but i can sell it for about 10k pretty easily. why complain? take advantage of the situation...

Damn, people buy that? I always used to merch it

MithranArkanere · Aug 02, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Well, since there is no weapon upgrade trader, people will try to equip the most versatile upgrade.

Armor vs damage type or race is not versatile, neither under stances or enchantments.

Reduce conditions are not either, since not all monsters deal all conditions.
The only ones left without conditions that almost always are active for a warrior or paragon are +5 armor while attacking, +5 vs physical and +5 vs elemental, since almost all areas have quite some physical and elemental damagers and warriors attack most of the time.

How to solve this? Add weapon upgrade traders so switching inscription becomes easier as is done more often.

crazybanshee · Aug 02, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

I love -5/20. Easy money, spam it for 8k and people line up to buy it.

Trylo · Aug 02, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

you people complaining about carrying 7 shields; why not use the obviously better -2 (Stance)?

Tyla · Aug 02, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Trylo

you people complaining about carrying 7 shields; why not use the obviously better -2 (Stance)?

Because not everyone runs stances and the extra armour actually equates to more defense. Twenty extra armour is around 25% damage mitigation.

slowerpoke · Aug 02, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

ok, so you have ur upteen shields in ur inv, and lo and behold, the next mob has fire attacks! easy choice.

but wait! it also has lighening and physicals

WUT U GUNNA DO *hulks up*

p.s. du have multiple sets of armor as well for every occasion?

p.p.s. who makes ur luggage, does it have a pocket dimension with infinite space?

Dr Strangelove · Aug 02, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by I Is Special

Everyone in the game is supposed to have all the +10a vs X, -2ench, -2stance, -5/20, -2ench/-2stance, -2ench/-3hex, and -2stance/-3 hex shields on EACH toon. Each physical class needs a Firey, icey, ebon, shocking, vamp, zealous, and sundering weapon. Physical classes should also have a variation of 15^50, 20v50, and 20^hexed with each of the aforementioned mods. In addition, casters are to have 3 other caster sets in their inventory at all time. If any of your characters share sets you are a noob. These are both to be done in PvE as well as PvP.

I'm Uber Pro so i have 13 shield sets on all 10 of my characters, i have 14 different weapons for all my physical classes, and perfect caster weapon sets for each of my casters. No weapons are shared between them--they all have their own sets which are carried into each area.

To anyone who doesn't have the same items...Why are you gimping yourself? Sheesh.

Edit: i forgot the condtion lessening shield inscrips. add a couple more shields to each of the classes

I have no idea why you'd need all that crap. The only damage inscription a warrior ever needs is 15>50. I prefer 15% enchanted on my rit, since I only use martial weapons with spirit's strength with her.

You really don't need more than 4 weapon sets for any given build (it's really hard to use more anyway).

Set 1 is vamp/sundering depending on if you want DPS or spikes. Please note that sundering is only for axes/hammers/scythes. Set 2 is an elemental weapon. I use icy, because that's how I roll. Set 3 is zealous, for energy regen. Set 4 is a spear/longbow for pulling and/or building adrenaline at range. Mods/damage/req are unimportant.

For shields, a warrior is pretty much set with -2 stance and -20% blind, though the +10 inscriptions are handy if you're wealthy. There are only 7 of them. -Cripple has uses in PvP, but is crap in PvE. A caster should use -2 enchanted or +10 vs. slashing if you can only pick one. Damn near everything does slashing damage.

PvE casters need one defensive set, one set for each attribute they plan to use, and one high set, usually req. your primary attribute. It's really not that much junk when you break it all down.

Trylo · Aug 02, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Because not everyone runs stances and the extra armour actually equates to more defense. Twenty extra armour is around 25% damage mitigation.

GG. if youre not running stances as a warrior i am going to suggest /uninstall. it was not asked to you (someone who would actually use the +10vsX), it was asked to the people who run -5/20 on a warrior. sorry if i didnt make that clear, i know you were only trying to help but you said condescending. if someone doesnt know 20 armor is 25% less damage by now they really should be /uninstalling too.

Tyla · Aug 02, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by Trylo

GG. if youre not running stances as a warrior i am going to suggest /uninstall. it was not asked to you (someone who would actually use the +10vsX), it was asked to the people who run -5/20 on a warrior. sorry if i didnt make that clear, i know you were only trying to help but you said condescending. if someone doesnt know 20 armor is 25% less damage by now they really should be /uninstalling too.

Bad reading comprehension on my part.

Cherng Butter · Aug 02, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

I have -2/stance and +10 lightning, fire, and water shields. I was actually quite glad when I bought my tormented shield because it had a -5/20% on it, which I salvaged and sold for some decent cash

NoXiFy · Aug 02, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

so u guys carry about 7 different +10 armor shields rdy for just the moment you get hit with the specific type of dmg? ;3

It's not hard. And yes, thats waht all GOOD PvP'ers do. The tormented is +10vs. lightning to follow how I've done my shields. Tormented, looks like lightning, thats why its my +10vs.light. Magmas shield = Fire, Tribal Shield (Mask Skin

) = piercing, Demonic Aegis = Slashing, Amesthy Aegis = Blunt, Celestial Shield = Cold, Shield of the lion = earth... and thats all folks.

fowlero · Aug 02, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Not so relevant to warriors this but i'll go ahead anyway.

For those worried about prices of having 7 different shields, this guy is pro. Then just add all your 7 inscriptions and you're away.

Plus they dye rather nicely.

Div · Aug 02, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Rolling for r6 commander still means they're a shitter.

Aztec Mijo · Aug 02, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

i just use +10 vs fire, lightning, slashing and piercing

chance of having the right shield seems the same as 1 in 5 hits, assuming its physical, being reduced by 5. :\